Canon T6s vs 80D

Canon 80D or T6s: Which Should You Buy?

Canon T6s vs 80D: How Do They Compare?

With the Rebel T6s, Canon gave their entry-level line of cameras some of the most important features that used to separate them from the mid-line series, so you may wonder whether it’s really necessary to buy the new Canon 80D. In fact, my general advice to camera buyers is always this: buy the least expensive camera that will meet your needs, and the best lenses you can afford. So, should you buy the Canon 80D? The answer is maybe, depending on your needs: the 80D does still have some significant advantages over the T6s. To figure out whether they’ll be useful for you, though, keep reading below.

The Basic Stats

Before we look at the details in depth, here’s a quick overview of the cameras’ main stats.

Canon T6sCanon 80D
Body Price
(current Amazon.com)
$849$1199
Body + 18-135mm Lens
Rear LCD1,040,000 pixel
Touch Senistive
1,040,000 pixel
Touch Sensitive
Sensor Resolution24.224.2
ISO Range100-12800
+25600
100-16000
+25600
Shutter Speeds30-1/400030-1/8000
Flash Sync1/200th1/250th
Max. Frame Rate5 fps7 fps
Max. RAW Burst725
Max. JPG Burst
(fine)
180110
Autofocus Points
(All Cross Type)
1945
Anti-Flicker YESYES
AF Sensitivity-0.5 - 18 EV-3 - 18 EV
Autofocus For VideoHybrid CMOS AF IIIYes, Dual Pixel CMOS AF
Touch Screen AFYESYES
Video Resolutions1080p @ 24, 30 fps
720p @ 50, 60 fps
1080p @ 24, 30, 60 fps
720p @ 50, 60 fps
Video FormatMP4 / H.264MP4 or MOV / H.264
Video OutLimited Clean HDMI Out
(not clean if recording internally, using AF overlay, battery low, etc)
NO Clean HDMI Out
Headphone JackNoYes
ConnectivityWi-Fi
NFC
USB
Wi-Fi
NFC
USB
GPSNo
(available through phone/wi-fi)
No
(available through phone/wi-fi)
Battery Life
(CIPA)
440 shots960 shots
Size131.9 x 100.9 x 77.8mm139.0 x 105.2 x 78.5mm
Weight
(CIPA)
565g730g
Viewfinder Coverage/
Magnification
95%
.82x
100%
.95x
Canon T6s and Canon 80D
Canon T6s and Canon 80D

The Sensors

Don’t expect any difference in image quality. Both cameras are endowed with a 24.2 megapixel sensor, and although the sensors are not exactly the same (their live-view AF systems are ostensibly different), they produce identical image sharpness and their low-light performance is the same. Although the 80D has a nominally higher native ISO range (about 1/3rd of a stop), it appears that this difference is based on slightly improved noise-reduction for JPGs; RAW shooters will get the same performance from both. And if you really care about image quality, you’ll shoot RAW.

Again, when it comes to image quality, it’s a tie.

Autofocus

For Photos: For both still photography and video, the Canon 80D has a better autofocus systems than the T6s, at least on paper. The 80D has more than twice as many autofocus points as the T6s (and the 70D, for that matter), and they’re all cross-type. If you don’t know the difference between cross-type and standard AF points, watch the first two minutes of my quick video on autofocus, here. Not only that, the camera can focus in much lower light levels than the T6s: -3 EV rather than the T6s’s -0.5 (a change of +1EV represents twice as much light).

That said, the T6s’s autofocus system first appeared in the original Canon 7D, a truly excellent, semi-pro sports and action camera. The fact that there’s something better doesn’t mean that you’d have any problem shooting fast action with the T6s’ excellent AF system.

For Video: Like the 70D’s, the Canon 80D’s sensor has built-in phase-detection functionality within the normal capture pixels on the sensor, allowing it to focus quickly and accurately while shooting video or while using live-view mode… essentially just as fast as when looking through the viewfinder.

Because of the dual-pixel CMOS focusing system, the Canon makes the ONLY DSLRs in which live-view can be a truly useful tool for shooting action with the camera held overhead or below eye-level (although non-DSLRs such as mirrorless cameras also have this functionality). It is also the first viable DSLR alternative to a video-camera for shooting high quality HD footage with autofocus. Because of it’s speed and accuracy, functions such as face-tracking also become especially useful, especially for those who are vloggers or otherwise shooting video of themselves and can’t be on both sides of the camera at once.

The T6i and T6s do not use the same dual-pixel autofocus technology used in the 70D, but they use an advanced version of the hybrid phase-detect system found in the T5i, and while the AF system of the T5i was still significantly slower than that of the 70D, the T6s has made great strides and is now very similar; in most situations it will focus just as fast as the 80D. I’ve been very impressed. In situations with low contrast, however, it can hunt a little more frequently than the 80D.

Side view of the Canons 80D and T6s, showing the 80D's headphone jack.
Side view of the Canons 80D and T6s, showing the 80D’s headphone jack.

High Speed Performance

The Canon 80D outperforms the T6s in many speed-related categories. The 70D has a faster top shutter speed (1/8000th vs 1/4000th) and shoots more frames per second (7 fps vs. 5fps) than the T6i, and the 80D can sustain those shooting speeds much longer. While the T6s’s buffer will be full after shooting 7 RAW images, the 80D can shoot a full 25 of them in a row. However, if you’re shooting JPGs, the 80D’s faster frame rate will mean that its buffer will fill after 110 shots (15.7 seconds of holding the button down) while the T6s shoots them just slow enough that there’s no practical limit…. you can just keep shooting hundreds of images.

The shutter lag of the T6s is much improved over previous Rebel models, ranging from about 75-100ms, depending on focus mode… twice as fast as previous models. The 80D is still slightly faster, at around 60-75ms, but the difference is now insignificant.

Both cameras are now equipped with anti-flicker mode, allowing you to get consistently lit shots in situations with problematic, pulsed lighting. If you enable anti-flicker shooting, though, the shutter lag will increase and the overall frame rate will slow down as well.

Body & Layout

Personal preference plays a major role in determining which body size and style will be preferable for you. Some people prefer a heavier, larger body, and some people (hikers, for example) prefer something more lightweight and compact, and there is a significant difference between these two bodies. The T6s is clearly the lighter (about 23%) and smaller of the two. It’s also worth noting that, a result of the compact size and smaller power-source, you should expect to get about half as many shots from a single battery. Keep in mind that if you prefer the T6s but have large hands, you can increase the size by adding a battery-grip such as Canon’s BG-E18 which will allow you to double the camera’s battery life as well.Canon-80D-and-t6s-TOP-view

The Canon T6s has two body features that separate it from the T6i and put it in the realm of more professional level cameras. The most obvious is probably the top mounted LCD panel (above). The most useful for advanced photographers is probably the control wheel on the back of the camera which allows quick access to exposure compensation (making your picture brighter or darker). This is a must for any photographer shooting events in rapidly changing light (and one of the reasons that I started shooting with Canon cameras over 20 years ago). I don’t find the T6s’s as easy and comfortable to use as the 80D’s, but at least it’s there.

back-of-the-canon-80Dand-t6s

It’s also worth mentioning that the Canon 80D features standard dust and weather sealing, while the T6s does not. If you often shoot photos in harsh conditions, this can make a difference. Keep in mind, though, that most lenses are not weather sealed, so you’ll still want to stay out of the rain most of the time.

Conclusions: Which Should You Buy?

The Canon Rebel T6s is a feature-rich SLR that performs as well as mid-level or semi-pro SLRs from just a few years ago. If you’re interested in taking better pictures, it is probably the best place to start.

Both cameras are excellent for shooting landscapes, travel photos, and portraits. The T6s is a great option for shooting casual action (kids playing, events, etc) but is not as strong as the 80D for heavy action shooting (school sports, professional weddings, etc) because of its smaller buffer and slower frame rate.

So, there are some good reasons to consider the Canon 80D, mostly involving action and video. This is how I’d make the choice:

Buy the Canon T6s if:

  • You want a good, all-around camera that is easy to use right-away
  • You shoot mostly portrait, family, travel and landscape pictures, along with some sports and action
  • You prefer a compact, lightweight camera
  • You want to shoot video in a studio settings, or casually as you would with a video camera

Buy the Canon 80D if:

  • You are serious about sports and action photography or wildlife photography, especially in low light
  • If shooting video is more important to you. The 80D has better video auto-focus, more frame rates, a headphone jack, and can ship with the new 18-135 Power Zoom lens.
  • You are interested in using your SLR as a video camera, especially for shooting action. The 70D, 80D and 7D Mark II remain the best options for serious auto-focus video shooting
  • If you use your camera in harsh conditions- the 80D has some weather sealing
  • Long battery life is important to you
  • Your eyesight isn’t great, the 80D has a larger and brighter viewfinder

A Note About Lenses

The lens that you choose to work with is just as important (often more important) than the camera that you choose. However, lens choice is also part of the creative process and is specific to the subject and situation that you’re shooting; you’d use a very different lens for shooting a studio portrait than you’d use for shooting a sporting event at night or for shooting close-ups of insects.

Canon 18-135mm USM Power Zoom
The new 18-135mm USM lens, available with the 80D, is compatible with a power-zoom module, pictured here. When used, the module will give you smooth, motor-driven zooms, as you’d get from a video camera.

If you’re looking for a good all-around, flexible lens, both cameras are available in a kit with an 18-135mm lens: the T6s with the STM model, and the 80D with the new power-zoom USM model, and I highly recommend both of them. Optically, they’re great. The wide-angle end of the zoom is great for those times when you need to capture a larger area from up close or emphasize a foreground object, and the telephoto end is just powerful enough to shoot some sports, and it’s a great length for portraits. If you need a lens that performs well in low-light situations, Canon’s  50mm f/1.8 STM lets in much more light (10 times more than the 135mm f/5.6), and the f/1.8 lens only costs about $125, and it’s a wonderful portrait lens.

If you’re looking for the best option for low-light, moderately wide-angle photography, there’s nothing better than the Sigma 18-35mm f/1.8 ART lens: the optics are incredible, and Sigma makes the only f/1.8 zoom lenses in the world. Similarly, their new 50-100mm f/1.8 is a great compliment to it: it’s the fastest (ie, lets in the most light) telephoto zoom lens in the world, and the optics are similarly excellent. Neither are cheap, though.

Questions? Comment?

In this post, I’ve attempted to highlight the most important differences between these two cameras, but there are many more than I can discuss in an article like this. If you still have questions, or would like further guidance, please let me know in the comments section below, and I’ll answer you as quickly as soon as I get a chance. Please comment!

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  1. Hello! So deciding between these two deals:

    1. Used t6s with 18-135mm for $400
    2. Used 80D body only with 2500 actuations for $700

    I currently have a t2i and want to upgrade. Amateur photographer, but learning the craft and usually shoot in aperture priority or manual. Any advice?

    1. My general advice is always this: buy the least expensive camera body that will meet your needs, and buy the best lenses you can afford. I don’t know what your needs are as a photographer, but most of us could get away with a T6s most of the time and get great results, so I’d start there. Figure out what you might be shooting that it couldn’t handle, if anything. If you find anything important, move up to the 80D and see if that would solve your problem. I’d probably go with the T6s, especially if it means you’d be able to buy some good glass to go along with it.

      Good luck!
      – Matthew

  2. Hey there.

    I have been going back and forth between the T6s, 77d, and 80d. I love taking pictures of my kids and would love to learn more about photography. I just ordered the nifty fifty canon lens because I was told it was good for portraits but I’m stuck on picking the right camera. I’m wanting something to keep for a long time and not have to upgrade later.
    Thank you so much for any help you can give.

    Elizabeth

    1. Hi Elizabeth,
      The T6s and 77D are very similar, but the 77D is a model-year newer. The 80D is a larger, higher end camera than the other two, but functionally not much better than the 77D. If I were you’d I’d opt for the 77D: it’s the newest of the bunch, it has the same excellent autofocus capabilities as the 80D, and it will give you plenty of room to grow, and it’s also the newest of the bunch… though that’s no guarantee that you won’t want a new camera in 4 or 5 years. We all do, even if our cameras are still working just fine :-) As you may have seen, my advice is always to buy the least expensive body that will meet your needs and the best lenses you can afford… and the 77D should more than meet your needs.

      You might want to think about getting a more typical zoom lens for it, too. The 50mm f/1.8 is a great lens for a lot of things (like portraits), but it doesn’t offer a lot of flexibility for general shooting. The kit 18-135mm STM lens covers a great range with really good image quality, so it’s worth thinking about, especially if your kids are old enough to be playing sports or taking part in other activities where you’ll be at a bit of a distance (though the lens isn’t as good in low light as the 50mm, it’s great for outdoor sports).

      – Matthew

      1. Matthew,

        Thank you so very much! You have helped me out a lot! I will look into the kit. And your right. I currently have a Nikon D5100 but have had it for a few years and ready to upgrade.

        Thanks again,
        Elizabeth

  3. Hi Matthew,

    Thank you for comparing these two. I am new to photography and want an amazing camera that will take self-portraits with great sharpness and vibrant color depth. This will probably be all I am using it for. Will the pictures in the T6s be as sharp, color rich and professional looking as the ones from the 80D?

      1. Hi Nicole,
        The quick answer is YES, they will. The more involved answer is that sharpness and vibrant color are dependent on the lens that you use and the way that you process the images (or the color settings that you use in the camera). For most people, it’s as simple as setting the color settings in the menu to “Vibrant” or “landscape” (these are the most saturated colors) and being done with it, but you can also shoot RAW files and process them for even better color depth. But both of these cameras are excellent for shooting selfies because of their fast, accurate auto-focus in live view. The T6s (or new 77D, which is the updated model of the T6s) would be a great option.

        Depending on how low the light is, the color will always get a little worse, but you shouldn’t have problems with these cameras.

  4. Hi Mathew,

    Thank you so much for providing such clear and concise comparison’s between the different canon models. I sincerely appreciate your doing so!

    I have a question that I have not found an answer to, which is, what type of camera and lens should I purchase for product photography. More specifically, product photography involving crystal rhinestone hand bags, taken in a light tent, with the intent to capture a clean white background. I recently started a business and have had a very hard time succeeding in capturing quality images. I would give you the link to my Amazon site so that you can view what I’ve been struggling with, however, I don’t believe I should mention it here on your page. In short, I have been using a Canon T5i and am getting ready to upgrade via Amazon, but am a little hesitant to do so due to fear of making the wrong choice. I would sincerely appreciate any feedback you can provide!

    As an Amazon seller, I appreciate the affiliate program, and will be more than happy to click the link you provide prior to my purchase.

    Kind regards,

    CY

    1. Hi Charvet,

      As far as the camera goes, it really doesn’t matter which SLR you use… they’re all going to be able to get the job done, as long as you know what you’re doing (and of course, that’s the tricky part). Getting nice, which backgrounds take some knowledge in terms of setup of the lighting and some in the camera.

      Let me actually answer your question, though, before I go on. The T5i will get the job done… I wouldn’t bother upgrading unless you just feel like it’s time and want to do it regardless.

      For the lens, there are a lot of good options, and you could make a lot of different lenses work, but (since I also do this type of work quite a bit) my favorite focal length to use is around 100mm-150mm. This means that you have to shoot from a fair distance away from the product, but it means that you’ll get more depth of field, especially at f/8 or f/11… and more of the product will be sharp.

      Since the best way to go about this is stopping down the aperture to f/8+ and using a tripod, you don’t need to buy an expensive lens. A kit lens will be just fine (either the 18-135 STM or the 50-250 STM), so that’s where I’d start. Maybe you already have one of those lenses.

      So, here are a few of the tricks to shooting products on a white background:
      1. Shoot RAW. This allows you to set the white balance later on, and also correct the exposure better (which is important) after the fact.
      2. Use your camera’s exposure compensation. The T5i has it, but it’s easier to use on the T6s/D77/80D… all of which have a thumb wheel on the back that is dedicated to that purpose. Basically, exposure compensation is just making your picture lighter or darker, and there’s a scale in the viewfinder of the 80D, for example, that looks sorta like this: -2 -1 0 +1 +2 with a little arrow marker under it to show where the camera is set. By default it’s set to zero. If you set it to +1 it makes your picture a little brighter. If you set it to +2, it’s a lot brighter (which makes the background more white and less grey). You’ll just have to take a look at your manual for instruction on how to set it on your current camera, if you don’t know.
      3. Hmm. Actually, I see that this is getting way too long to be a response in the comments section, when I don’t actually even know what type of problems you’re running into. So, I’ll stop here. I’m happy to answer more questions, though.

      – Matthew

  5. Hi Matthew.
    I have recently been thinking about getting the t6s and when I went into my local camera store tonight to ask more questions, the sales person(s) kept leaning me toward the 80D. I left a little confused, but much more informed, for which I am grateful. So, while I’m still trying to figure out which to get, I came across this article. Can you help a little? Here’s my situation:

    I was thinking of the t6s with the 18-135 STM lens for $1049, which I thought was about as much as I needed to spend as an amateur photographer, but still know enough to be dangerous. :) Basically I would be using it for some still shots and portraits for work (I’m a designer in advertising and marketing), but mostly for vacations, outdoor landscape (my wife and I hike a bit), family photos, and maybe some night time shooting of maybe the stars or sky/moon or something of that sort. After hearing this, the sales person introduced me to the 80D and for $1399 I could get the 18-135 USM lens. Then to make things more confusing, I mentioned that I have an older Tokina 28-70mm 2.8-4.5 lens that I used to use with my 35mm Rebel. He then said why don’t I think about just buying the camera body (of either – $849 – $1099) and also purchase a lens package consisting of a Canon 50mm F/1.8 and Canon 10-18mm F/4.5-5.6 to compliment the lens that I already own. (The Tokina) This package seemed like a good deal at $319 but I’m not sure about the lenses. I have read that they are decent though. Right now, I think i’m leaning toward the t6s body with the 2 lens package due to the compact size and easy to carry around and also because my wife may be less intimidated by it. Can you give me your perspective on this? I would greatly appreciate it as you really sound like you know what you’re talking about. In any case, thanks for the article and any more advice you can offer.

    1. Hi Dan,

      If you’ve looked around the site, you may have already seen that my general advice to people buying camera equipment is always this: buy the least expensive camera that will meet your needs, and buy the best lenses you can afford. Good lenses will hold their value longer, and they’ll make a bigger difference in your photography than the camera body.

      That said, it sounds to me like the T6s would be perfect for you; it’s a strong photographer’s camera, it’s good for video if you decide to use it that way, and it’s relatively lightweight. Your 24-70 will probably work just fine on it, but it may not give you the image quality that you’d hope for with a modern camera, and the 70mm end of the zoom range won’t give you much reach as a telephoto for things like sports or wildlife. The 18-135mm STM lens is a great all-around lens, and will be good for most things but not exactly perfect for anything specific (ie, it’s a good portrait lens, but not as good as a large aperture prime like an 85mm f/1.4, it will work well for spots outdoors, but not as well as a 70-200 f/2.8L, etc).

      A 50mm f/1.8 STM (or 50mm f/1.4) is handy for portraits and any sort of low-light photography. The 1.8 only costs about $125, so you should probably buy one at some point regardless… they’re good lenses to own.

      So, it depends on how serious you are as a photographer. A lot of people who are hobbyists will not want to pack around 3 lenses… they’ll grab the body and whatever lens happens to be on it when they walk out the door, which means that if the single lens that they own isn’t very flexible, they end up missing a lot of shots. However, if you don’t mind grabbing a camera bag and maybe changing lenses now and then, then the 50mm and 10-18 are cool lenses to own. I probably wouldn’t want to rely on the Tokina (the chromatic aberration will be much more visible than you remember on film). If you buy a T6s body without a kit lens, you might consider something like the Sigma 17-50mm f/2.8 to replace it.

      Not sure if that helps or makes things more complicated. To simplify, my advice is: T6s with 18-135, plus 50mm 1.8, to start.

      1. Thank you. I do think this helps. I was a little leery of how well the Tokina would work. And to be honest, I could always trade it in, along with my 35 mm Rebel, for a few bucks on the new camera. However, the Macro feature on the Tokina might be nice to keep. Again, thanks for your opinion. Very kind of you to respond so quickly.

  6. Matthew,

    I have browsed thru you site and came across your comparison article for T6S vs 80D. I have been looking at both cameras for my wife who wants to get into photography beyond P&S cameras to a DLSR and we are leaning towards the T6S.

    Back in the dark days of film I acquired and still have a Canon EOS 620 with the following lenses:
    EF 28-70mm F3.5-4.6
    EF 70-210mm F4
    EF 50mm F1.8
    plus 420 EZ Flash

    One of the reasons I want to stay with Canon family ~ my understanding we can use all the older EF lenses on any current EOS body; Is there a quick reference chart to convert what the equivalent range would be for each lens above on an APC-S sensor? Is this a viable plan/ Or is there anything to be concerned with in using older lenses?

    I was thinking that it would still be worthwhile to get an 18-135 lens for either camera as an all-round lens for her classes and a travel lens – comments?

    Finally, based on your review – the T6s seems like the right choice for her to grow with at present time versus the additional cost of 80D for the next couple years. As we are not concerned with video capability as a primary focus at the moment, this would make the T6S (18-135 STM) a better fit for the present?

    Thanks for your input/advice.

    1. Hi Mark,
      I almost bought an EOS 620 back in the early 1990s, but hung on a little longer and bought an EOS 10s, and then eventually, an EOS A2. Great cameras, back in the day.

      All of your lenses will work with a new camera, but the flash will not work safely.

      With the older lenses, to get the effective focal length, all you have to do is multiply the focal length by 1.6 . So, the 28-70 will be like a 45-122mm. The older lenses will work just fine, but you’ll have a hard time getting a true wide-angle field of view, and optical technology has progressed quite a bit since then… modern lenses and lens coating will give you significantly better resolution. Not that most people need any more resolution…

      I’m a big fan of the 18-135 STM; it’s sharp all around and a great zoom range.

      There’s only one advantage that the 80D has that is worth considering. The 80D has micro-focus adjustment, which allows you to fine tune the AF performance of your camera and lens combinations (sometimes lenses will consistently back-focus or front focus a little bit… this can fix it). Normally this isn’t a big deal, but it can be more important if you’re using older lenses. I’m not sure it’s really worth worrying about, but I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention it at all.

      In general, I’d say that the T6s and 18-135 STM would be a good choice.
      – Matt

      1. Matt,

        Thanks for the comments… I think we will go with the T6s as it will be my wife’s primary camera and figure that the 18-135 will meet most of her needs when starting out and we can experiment with the quality/functions of the older lenses.

        R/
        Mark

  7. Hi,
    Canon EF-S 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6 IS Lens vs EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens

    Which would be better? I am looking at a lot of 2-3m distance indoor photography. And, later some sunsets and sunrises (time lapse)

    1. Hi Kazi,

      I never recommend getting the 18-200mm lens; it just isn’t very good, optically. The original 18-135mm lens wasn’t very good, either, but the 18-135mm STM lens is quite good, and so is the new 18-135mm USM with the power-zoom option. I’d go with either of the more recent 18-135mms.

      – Matthew

  8. Ok, i was ready to buy a 70d instead of the t6s that i had rented. Then the 80d was introduced, so i read your updated review. Now I cannot decide between the 70d and the 80d – any help here?

    1. That depends. Is there any particular feature or update to the 80D that you think you’ll find important or useful? Or is it just the fact that it’s newer?

      As you may have seen, my general advice is always to buy the least expensive camera that will meet your needs and buy the best lenses you can afford. So, if you can get away with the 70D at a good price, I’d do it and buy better lenses.

  9. I’d suggest that the 80D has an essential feature missing from the Rebels: auto-focus micro adjustment (AFMA). Plenty of good lenses–especially fast primes–will require dialing in some body-specific calibration to reach their full potential. I agree with the advice to spend your money on the best lenses, but without the ability to micro-adjust you can’t always get the best results with those lenses.

    My 50mm f/1.4 was almost useless for through-the-viewfinder shooting on my Canon T3i due to consistent focusing error. Even at f/5.6, I could never get a subject’s eyes in focus — it was maddeningly guaranteed to be out of focus. I recently upgraded to the 80D, and after dialing in +12 compensation the 50mm + 80D combo works great. For me, AFMA alone justified the difference in price between the 80D and the T6s.

    I think that AFMA should be standard on all DSLRs, but that’s another matter entirely….

    1. Hi Nick,

      I agree that this is something that I should have mentioned; I usually do and it was an oversight here.

      That said, I have several Nikon and Canon cameras, which I’ve used with dozens of lenses… including some from 1990s vintage, and I’ve never really needed to set the micro adjustment, with one exception in Canon and maybe two for my Nikons, and in both cases the lenses were old.

      I do have Reikan FoCal to automate the process of micro-adjustment, but with my own Canon 50 f1.4, Sigma 50 1.4 ART, and Canon 50mm f/1.2, no adjustments were necessary (at the distances that I most commonly shoot).

      So, I don’t want to give the impression to first-time SLR buyers that this is likely to be a problem– most photographers do just fine without it, although it can end up being very important for those photographers who DO have a problem with a particular lens/body combination.

      – Matthew

  10. Hi Matthew,
    Even I was caught between T6s n 80D. I currently have 1100D and thought of upgrading to 80D, but as your article suggest better to invest in lens I would invest more into lens and then upgrade the body.
    Now I am caught between Canon 70-200 F/4 non IS and IS… ?

    1. Good call. If you’re going for an f/4, then I’d definitely opt for the IS, but don’t forget to consider the Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 VC USD, which is an awesome lens and not too much more than the Canon f/4, usually. Otherwise, the Canon 70-200 f/4 models are both excellent lenses, and will serve you well.

      – Matthew

        1. Hi Amit,

          Yes. The non-VC is a much older lens. It’s still nice and sharp, but not as sharp as the newer lens. In addition to not having VC, it also doesn’t have a USM style motor… its a noisy old micro-motor, so the AF is slow and noisy. Still a decent lens, but not a great one like the new VC USD.

          – Matthew

  11. Matthew,

    Thank you so much! You are a wealth of information and insight. I really appreciate your analysis and time you took to respond. I’ll be going to purchase my new T6 tomorrow! Have a great weekend!

    Cheers,
    Sara

  12. Hello,
    I have been researching all day to find a good DSLR camera to replace one that was recently stolen. My previous camera was a Canon EOS Rebel XTi. I used it to take photos and make slideshows for friends and family as a hobby. I will become more serious about photography in about 8 years when I retire.

    The first choice was to decide between a Canon vs. Nikon. I went with Canon. Was this a good choice? (I’m familiar with this brand and it seemed as if you prefer Canon as as well. I also liked that it’s made in the US and the website seemed more customer friendly.)

    The second was picking the model. I read your excellent article on Canon T6s vs. T6i and I went with the T6 since I like the LCD screen on top and the exposure compensation feature. However, now I’m deciding between the T6 and the 80D. Again, I read your article and thought that the 80D won out:
    – 45 vs. 19 AF points
    – weatherproofing
    – battery life
    – shutter speed
    – more ISO range 16000 vs. 12800

    I don’t care much about the video features so this wasn’t a consideration even thought the 80D seems better in this regard.

    My question comes down to VALUE and whether I need this much camera in the 80D. In addition, with my old camera I bought an all purpose lens so I probably will invest in a 18-135 lens since I don’t like switching lenses a lot.

    So here are the options I’m considering:

    (1) $1500: Canon EOS 80D DSLR Camera 2 Lens Bundle. Features: EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM and EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Lens, 32GB SD Card, Camera Bag, Tutorial DVD. (Would have to buy a 18-135 lens separately at around $550. I don’t see myself switching lenses a lot at this point.).

    (2) $1600: Canon EOS 80D DSLR Camera with 18-135mm Lens (I hope this is STM. I read your article and it’s a definite no go if it’s not STM).

    (3) $1050: Canon EOS Rebel T6s EF-S 18-135 STM Kit.

    It seems like the Canon T6s is the best value; however, I’m not getting the features of the 80D. I’m considering buying the T6s camera now and upgrading in 8 years. Any advice you could provide would be extremely helpful. Many thanks!

    1. Hi Sara,

      The Canon vs Nikon debate is endless :-) Both make great cameras, and all of the cameras in question are capable of taking incredible, professional quality images. So, pick a camera that you’re comfortable with, at the right budget, and that has the lenses and accessories that you’ll use. I do like Canon bodies, but Nikon makes great cameras too.

      Between the 80D and the T6s: the 80D is clearly the better camera in some ways. The question is whether those ways are going to be useful to you. If you’re going to be shooting a lot of action, then the 80D is the way to go, with its better AF system, frame rate and shutter speed, and larger buffer. If you’ll mostly be shooting landscapes and portraits and some general action (kids playing, dogs and cats playing, etc), then the T6s will be just fine. And since it sounds like you’ve looked around the site a bit already, you may know that my general advice is: buy the least expensive camera that will meet your needs, and buy the best lenses you can afford.

      The 18-135 that comes with the 80D is actually not an STM… it’s a brand new USM! It’s just as good (or better) than the STM, and much better than the old USM. The new USM allows for power-zoom (when shooting video), and has a fast new USM motor, so it’s fast and quiet.

      So, I’d probably go with your choice 2 or 3… and I’d lean toward #3, unless you’re shooting a lot of action. The high ISO difference is not significant. The weather sealing on the 80D is nice if you are going to spend a lot of money on some “L” lenses that are also weather sealed, otherwise, you’re still going to have to keep your camera out of the rain.

      Good luck!

      – Matthew

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